Waiting for (the Plumber)
Feb. 11th, 2011 09:12 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Man, I am so ready to not have this fucking cold anymore. Sooooo ready. As I sit here all congested, eyes still gummy from seven o'fucking clock A.M., coughing and feeling it rip right down my throat to my esophagus...
So: The trailer for X-Men: First Class just dropped, and it looks promising, but naturally, all this is prompting is a whole lot of "oh well, but I don't trust the Powers That Be anymore because X3 was so scarring, so I don't want to get too invested..." And OTOH, we have people rushing to get caught up on A Game of Thrones before the miniseries starts, thus cueing a whole lot of "oh my GOD, WTF, how can George R.R. Martin be so meeeeeeean!!!!!" Which...man, this really is a triggery goddamn world we live in these days, isn't it? Full of very easily triggered people. I kind of wonder how some of them get out of bed in the morning, frankly.
I don't know about you, but when I pick up a book, I want the author to shock and awe me. To make me care about the characters, then break my heart and run me through the ringer--so long, of course, as they stay true to their own internal logic. Which is why I never think of Game of Thrones as ending on a world-wrecking note, because [spoiler] is so closely followed by [other spoiler]--a twist that elevates through horror, opening up the playing-field once again in a way that changes the world forever. You can see [spoiler] as a sad story, yet not a new one--it's simply human badness, human error, human politicking and bastardry brought to fruition, the triumph of demon practicality over honor and hope. But [other spoiler] is something else entirely, the transformation of a person from one sort of archetype to a completely different one, the karma that everyone responsible for [spoiler] has sown and is now doomed to reap. It's fuckin' opera, man: Someone has to die.
But maybe that's what we're talking about, in the end...that fanfictioneer mindset which wants things static and infinitely reproducible, for nothing to ever grow or change. What amazes me is that they're so intensely conservative--that for people who trumpet the rise of Remix Culture, they often seem incapable of filtering out what they don't like in a narrative, picking and choosing and spackling it back together in a more palatable form. These are the same people who complain about 3:10 to Yuma's ending, and expect sympathy: Oh my God, things didn't go the way I hoped they would! No, they went the way you knew they were likely to, instead, and you see that as a betrayal--so much so, it makes you apparently so bitter you don't want to play anymore. Which is...disappointing, to say the least.
I guess, in the end, I really am like Chess Pargeter, in that I not only expect things to hurt, but firmly believe that that's the sort of contrast which makes the pleasure pop all the better. That that's what makes it good. Or maybe, as Alex Dunkleman tells Bug in My Soul to Take, you have to be a condor and eat death for breakfast, because the trick is to keep on telling them thanks a lot, that felt fucking great, even when it doesn't. Especially when it doesn't.
I mean, really: why would you ever be content to just give your power away like that? No one's got a gun to your head; no one's making you do anything. They're giving you a gift, raw clay with prompts attached, and you're acting like you've been slapped. You're the subversive, revolutionary one here, right? So nut up, or shut up.
So: The trailer for X-Men: First Class just dropped, and it looks promising, but naturally, all this is prompting is a whole lot of "oh well, but I don't trust the Powers That Be anymore because X3 was so scarring, so I don't want to get too invested..." And OTOH, we have people rushing to get caught up on A Game of Thrones before the miniseries starts, thus cueing a whole lot of "oh my GOD, WTF, how can George R.R. Martin be so meeeeeeean!!!!!" Which...man, this really is a triggery goddamn world we live in these days, isn't it? Full of very easily triggered people. I kind of wonder how some of them get out of bed in the morning, frankly.
I don't know about you, but when I pick up a book, I want the author to shock and awe me. To make me care about the characters, then break my heart and run me through the ringer--so long, of course, as they stay true to their own internal logic. Which is why I never think of Game of Thrones as ending on a world-wrecking note, because [spoiler] is so closely followed by [other spoiler]--a twist that elevates through horror, opening up the playing-field once again in a way that changes the world forever. You can see [spoiler] as a sad story, yet not a new one--it's simply human badness, human error, human politicking and bastardry brought to fruition, the triumph of demon practicality over honor and hope. But [other spoiler] is something else entirely, the transformation of a person from one sort of archetype to a completely different one, the karma that everyone responsible for [spoiler] has sown and is now doomed to reap. It's fuckin' opera, man: Someone has to die.
But maybe that's what we're talking about, in the end...that fanfictioneer mindset which wants things static and infinitely reproducible, for nothing to ever grow or change. What amazes me is that they're so intensely conservative--that for people who trumpet the rise of Remix Culture, they often seem incapable of filtering out what they don't like in a narrative, picking and choosing and spackling it back together in a more palatable form. These are the same people who complain about 3:10 to Yuma's ending, and expect sympathy: Oh my God, things didn't go the way I hoped they would! No, they went the way you knew they were likely to, instead, and you see that as a betrayal--so much so, it makes you apparently so bitter you don't want to play anymore. Which is...disappointing, to say the least.
I guess, in the end, I really am like Chess Pargeter, in that I not only expect things to hurt, but firmly believe that that's the sort of contrast which makes the pleasure pop all the better. That that's what makes it good. Or maybe, as Alex Dunkleman tells Bug in My Soul to Take, you have to be a condor and eat death for breakfast, because the trick is to keep on telling them thanks a lot, that felt fucking great, even when it doesn't. Especially when it doesn't.
I mean, really: why would you ever be content to just give your power away like that? No one's got a gun to your head; no one's making you do anything. They're giving you a gift, raw clay with prompts attached, and you're acting like you've been slapped. You're the subversive, revolutionary one here, right? So nut up, or shut up.
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Date: 2011-02-11 03:15 pm (UTC)You know, I understand the fanfictioneers' perspective because I was there myself once upon a time - I was so pissed that things didn't turn out the way I wanted them to for my favorite characters (or rather, LOL, that I felt they were being portrayed unfairly by their own creator - in my defense, I was 12). But you're absolutely right about the way to get through that, because that was a huge driver in getting me to write the novel I'm writing now. Partly because hey, this is an experience I can more or less control.
Also, turns out the movie's called My Soul to Take, and we've been using the other line of the prayer...
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Date: 2011-02-11 03:32 pm (UTC)BTW, did you notice that in the movie, the sampler Bug had on his wall got the last line wrong? It says something like: "If I should die before I wake/I pray the Lord to mend my ways."
At any rate--glad you liked the post. I know I rag on these ladies pretty hard these days, but that comes from also having been one of them. And yeah, if the transformative aspects of fanfiction are what makes it cool, then how can you ever feel deluded or betrayed by the original canon? But this is where we drop straight into this strange middle ground where people want to pretend that they're not actually making something new, because if they were doing that, then they'd be allying themselves with the stinky creators! So they need to think that what they're doing is "fixing" "mistakes" said stinky creators have made with their own narratives. Because readers always understand stories better than writers, right? It's sort of demented.
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Date: 2011-02-11 03:49 pm (UTC)That was what I used FF for, in the short time that I wrote it - making myself feel better about what happened in the original canon. But eventually I was like, I can't deny that that's what happens in the original, so I better just make my own thing, because this is ridiculous/unhelpful. Then a few years later, in HS, I went back to the original canon after avoiding it strenuously and sort of forced myself to look at the things that hurt - and it was very, very eye-opening and enlightening. At this point the characters that grew out of other people's characters are my own; I don't think anyone would recognize them. But really, all of this ceases to be about your (the reader's) relationship with the creator, IMO - it's about your relationship with your own thoughts, and the concepts presented to you.
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Date: 2011-02-11 05:22 pm (UTC)The truth, which we both know, is that creator and consumer have no relationship whatsoever. Just as the creator has no control over what the consumer "does with" their product post-release, the consumer has no control over the fact that the creator can go merrily on crating, without (horrors!) factoring them into the equation at all. And the sooner people freakin' accept this bunch of facts, the happier everybody's going to be.
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Date: 2011-02-11 05:42 pm (UTC)Totally agree on the second paragraph.
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Date: 2011-02-11 05:42 pm (UTC)I think it's perfectly valid to feel betrayed by a canon, when it's been going along brilliantly and then something happens that is just like, what the fuck happened to the writer's brain. Because writers do fuck up, and there's a difference between that and the writer making a decision the reader doesn't like. Things like, text has been having great women and then suddenly for no identifiable reason they all have no agency and wind up in various refrigerators, that feels betraying. (Whether it really is or not is another question entirely.) But denying that it happened in canon, which is denying the writer's right to make these decisions, that I think is where the crazy happens.
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Date: 2011-02-11 06:31 pm (UTC)And yeah, I think it's valid to feel betrayed by canon if you genuinely think you could argue it point by point with the author: What about this dangling thread? Why does this characterization suddenly seem to change in order to bring about a plot-point which could have been done another, less annoying way? Where we get into trouble, though, is when the sense of "betrayal" becomes toxic. I've literally seen people accuse an author of intentionally fishing them in and playing them along just so they can kick them in the figurative crotch, and...um, no. While I think we all have our little ways, I don't believe anybody does that pre-meditatively; by accident, possibly. By not thinking out all the potential combinations of people who might be reading and how they might react (ie, What do you mean, ladies who've been raped might not want to read about rape? What do you mean, non-default people might not want a non-default villain to be their only representation?). And even if they do, they sure as hell aren't thinking of you, in particular, when they do it!
For me, it always comes back to a fellow reviewer I knew who objected to a scene in Con Air that seemed to put a cild in jeopardy, not because she found it gross and manipulative per se, but because it reminded her of the fact that her own daughter had died of leukemia. How is anyone writing a screenplay (especially an action-movie screenplay) supposed to do that math, exactly? They aren't, any more than the author of Hope Floats knew I, personally, was a child of divorce and would find a particular scene in which a girl runs screaming after her father's car triggery. At points like these, you need to step away from the material, re-group, slap on filters, and just do what you came here to do: Assess the material for what it is, no more, no less. Not what you want it to be. Not what it evokes in you. Not what it was never meant to be.
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Date: 2011-02-11 03:16 pm (UTC)--now that I could get into.
Except the books are too huge. And I have reader's block for anything beyond short stories, it seems. As you know. *sigh*
I will get over it I will get over it I will get over it....
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Date: 2011-02-11 03:50 pm (UTC)One way or the other, I admire these books immensely, and I trust in their creator's sensibility. Which is more than almost anyone else seems to do, these days.
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Date: 2011-02-11 05:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-11 05:36 pm (UTC)And solved the problem where George R.R. Martin has a terrific prose style except when he's writing Westeros.
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Date: 2011-02-11 06:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-11 05:02 pm (UTC)My problem with 3:10's ending was it didn't feel done. But, eh, it was.
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Date: 2011-02-11 05:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-02-11 07:45 pm (UTC)I keep writing and then erasing the rest of my comment. I haven't read their comments, so I can't justify saying 'quitcher bitchin', or 'stop whining'. (To them, not you)
I guess I'm just grouchy these days.
Edited to clarify.