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Well, if nothing else, I finally finished the Book of Tongues Interstitial post I've been working on for Music at Midnight, this time about...actual music, ie the stuff I was listening to when I wrote the book. You can find it here (http://musicatmidnight-gfiles.blogspot.com/2010/04/book-of-tongues-interstitial-music.html). Enjoy!

Meanwhile, I've done all the chores, an am marking time until Steve arrives with the Metropass. My brain, she refuses to function in terms of Chapter Four wordage; whatever, dude. It'll happen.

Oh yeah: And this idea of "Protagonist Privilege", which is once more making the rounds here (http://londonkds.dreamwidth.org/378900.html?format=light), continues to be a huge ball of WTF. So...main characters are "world-warping", always shifting things in their own favor, and you want more/equal time for minor characters whose POVs the narrative was not originally designed to be told from; guess you better get writing, then! This would be where fanfiction comes in, I would think, as a concept. But that doesn't mean you get to shit on the narrative as it exists because it's not giving you more about the person you wish was the protagonist, yet isn't.

Watching "The Eleventh Hour", for example--intro episode for Doctor Who Number Eleven--I'm personally perfectly capable of both appreciating Eleven's old/new qualities for themselves (he already has a heaping pile of truly Four-like traits, which I'm very happy about, since Baker remains my Doctor of choice) and wondering why it was so completely beyond the realm of possibility to rejigger the Doctor as female...to have a woman, for once, who gets to stand there saying: "Yes, I'm the Doctor. Basically, run." Let alone a nerdy or attractive dude who's standing behind her, looking at her bum as she changes with that vaguely interested yet more ruminative "hey, she was really cute even when I was a little kid--but it occurs to me that she's like a massively old lady from another planet in a geeky young lady's body, and she also sort of scares me too" look in his eyes.

Yet obviously, if I want this to happen, I'm going to have to do it myself; though the Moff may not want to actually screw the Doctor, he isn't going to screw with him, either. Such is life. Next?

"Protagonist Privilege"! Jesus God, please.

Date: 2010-04-19 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baduin.livejournal.com
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Actually, this is a very informative post. It includes two points, both of paramount importance throughout history of the Western civilisation.

1) Objective existence of the world vs. the individual world as perception.

http://www.nytimes.com/1956/01/22/books/tolkien-king.html


January 22, 1956
BOOK REVIEW | 'THE RETURN OF THE KING'
At the End of the Quest, Victory
By W. H. AUDEN

" The difficulty in presenting a complete picture of reality lies in the gulf between the subjectively real, a man's experience of his own existence, and the objectively real, his experience of the lives of others and the world about him. Life, as I experience it in my own person, is primarily a continuous succession of choices between alternatives, made for a short-term or long-term purpose; the actions I take, that is to say, are less significant to me than the conflicts of motives, temptations, doubts in which they originate. Further, my subjective experience of time is not of a cyclical motion outside myself but of an irreversible history of unique moments which are made by my decisions.

For objectifying this experience, the natural image is that of a journey with a purpose, beset by dangerous hazards and obstacles, some merely difficult, others actively hostile. But when I observe my fellow-men, such an image seems false. I can see, for example, that only the rich and those on vacation can take journeys; most men, most of the time must work in one place.

I cannot observe them making choices, only the actions they take and, if I know someone well, I can usually predict correctly how he will act in a given situation."

2) The rejection of the idea of a privileged position or of an privileged observer, who has a deeper insight in reality. This is the key idea of Enlightment and of modern scientific methodology, democracy, bureaucracy and of social organisation in general. It is especially visible in Spinoza, Kant, Popper & Hayek.

http://www.the-rathouse.com/CRIntroductionSources.html
the Rathouse
Series of Very Abbreviated Versions of Classical Philosophical Works for Very Busy People.

Conjectures and Refutations Karl Popper
"XIV

In this short section Popper sums up his view that there are many sources of knowledge but none have authority.

XV
The authoritarian structure of traditional philosophy

The traditional systems of epistemology may be said to result from yes-answers and no-answers to questions about the sources of our knowledge. They never challenge these questions, or dispute their legitimacy; the questions are taken as perfectly natural, and nobody seems to see any harm in them. This is quite interesting, for these questions are clearly authoritarian in spirit. They can be compared with the traditional questions of political theory, 'Who should rule?' which begs for an authoritarian answer such as 'the best', or 'the wisest' or 'the people', or 'the majority'. (It suggests, incidentally, such silly alternatives as 'Who should be our rulers: the capitalists or the workers?', analogous to 'What is the ultimate source of knowledge, the intellect or the senses?'). "

This political question is wrongly put and the answers which is illicits are paradoxical (Chapter 7 of OSE). It should be replaced by a completely different question such as 'How can we organise our political institutions so that bad or incompetent rulers cannot do too much damage?' The question about the sources of our knowledge can be replaced in a similar way.

The alternative that Popper suggested is the question of detecting and eliminating error, by means of critical appraisal by all the methods of criticism that we can muster - logical analysis, experimental testing, consistency with other theories etc."

Popper, differently from Kant or Spinoza arrives at correct conclusions from the rejection of privileged knowledge: he rejects any certain knowledge of the reality, replacing it, for utilitarian purposes, with his "falsifiability".

3) Of course, if the knowledge of the real world is impossible to achieve, we must finally accept the personal experience as the basis - and therefore accept the Protagonist privilege.

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